[MD] It's a trap

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Marsha,


On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:48 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Mark,
> 
> It is quite easy for me to look beyond YOUR words to experience Quality(Dynamic/static).  Your cultural immune system may not understand this.  Possibly it is you who should reread RMP's books.  
> 
> What of yours do you think I need to get?  

That I am not giving you any truths.

Mark
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2011, at 7:32 PM, 118 wrote:
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>> Marsha,
>> The fact that you think I want you to "mirror" my words shows that you have no idea what I am talking about.  The words are trivial when it comes to Quality; there are a million ways to say the same thing.  Just read the books by Pirsig on the subject of words.
>> 
>> As Aquinas is said to have uttered after he had a spiritual awakening, "...because all that I have written seems like straw to me", and he never finished the Summa Theologica.  One of the greatest syntheses of Religion and Aristotelian logic.
>> 
>> Do you get it now?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 5:34 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Hello Ron,
>>> 
>>> Mark would have me mirror his words.  You too?  That's an obvious gumption trap.  Or to frame a discussion in words like 'trashing', 'denigrating' and 'revenge-attitude'.  
>>> 
>>> Mark prefers his "automatic writing".  That's great for him.   -  I prefer to speak in my own voice.  That's a type of freedom when you are not a member of the boy's club.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> ---  
>>> 
>>> THE HONEY TREE
>>>      by Mary Oliver
>>> 
>>> And so at last I climbed
>>> the honey tree, ate
>>> chunks of pure light, ate
>>> the bodies of bees that could not
>>> get out of my way, ate
>>> the dark hair of the leaves,
>>> the rippling bark,
>>> the heartwood. Such
>>> frenzy! But joy does that,
>>> I’m told, in the beginning.
>>> Later, maybe,
>>> I’ll come here only
>>> sometimes and with a
>>> middling hunger. But now
>>> I climb like a snake,
>>> I clamber like a bear to
>>> the nuzzling place, to the light
>>> salvaged by the thighs
>>> of bees and racked up
>>> in the body of the tree.
>>> Oh, anyone can see
>>> how I love myself at last!
>>> how I love the world! climbing
>>> by day or night
>>> in the wind, in the leaves, kneeling
>>> at the secret rip, the cords
>>> of my body stretching
>>> and singing in the
>>> heaven of appetite.
>>> 
>>>         ---  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:11 AM, X Acto wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Marsha:
>>>> I think your complaining, and you are beginning to sound like one of the complaining sock puppets, is hypocritical.  
>>>> 
>>>> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> Marsha, the name reffering to an everchanging pattern of Quality that has no
>>>> existence, is a intellectual trap.
>>>> 
>>>> Any pattern that has no existence is a pattern that has no meaning, thus "marsha"
>>>> is a false dilemma.
>>>> 
>>>> The pattern will call for clarity and supply none.
>>>> 
>>>> The pattern will call for standards and abide by none.
>>>> 
>>>> The more one attempts to "reason" politely the more one is ridiculed for trying.
>>>> 
>>>> A Gumption trap to be sure, layed out masterfully as intellecual bait. 
>>>> 
>>>> Irrestistable to the unknowing  intellectual, the pattern will ever entice.
>>>> 
>>>> ....
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