[MD] It's a trap

[118]

Hi Marsha,

Thanks.

Are you sure that Dynamic Quality really IS that?  How does one know
the unknowable?  How does one create three adjectives for the
indivisible?  How does one define the undefinable as your "For me..."
states?

For static patterns, is the "conditionally" an independent source?
How does the concept of processes come into the picture, are processes
defined before co-dependent arises?  That is, is there a third
component which defines the process?  Is the ever-changing aspect
unchanging?  If things are predictable, how does something
unpredictable come into the picture (like the Black Swan)?

How does the Flow of static patterns manifest?  Is there flow and then
Self, or is there Self and then flow?  Do the static patterns
represent flow?  Are the static patterns dependent on flow, or is flow
dependent on static patterns?  Are flow and static patterns dependent?

I am not getting on your case and I did ask you for your opinion,
which I value.  I am just asking questions that I find interesting to
further explore.  I do not have the answers.


I am sorry I missed the whole Intellectual Level Brew-haha, it must
have been interesting.  Someday I will visit the archives on that one.
 Usually when there is tension in a dialectic it is interesting to see
how it plays out.  Sounds a bit unfinished to me, or else the
combatants were unwilling to see what could be learned.

Cheers,
Mark


On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:01 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>
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> QUALITY:
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>  For me…  Dynamic Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable.
>
> Static patterns of value are processes: ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent.   (Not independent objects, subjects or things-in-themselves.)  Ever-changing processes that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern.   These patterns are categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical structure: :  inorganic, biological, social and intellectual.
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> ---
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> SELF:
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>  The “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
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> ---
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> INTELLECTUAL LEVEL
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> Not allowed to be presented.
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> On Nov 10, 2011, at 12:56 PM, 118 wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
>> I have yet to see an opinion, all I see are quotes of other's opinions.
>>
>> So, what do the two truths do for you?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:45 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ron/Mark,
>>>
>>> I will happily withhold my offensive opinion; it is that of an insect.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>> Two Truths:
>>>
>>> "Relative to the adopted "established conclusion" ("siddhānta") or tenet, the Two Truths ("satyadvada"), the division between conventional truth ("samvriti-satya") and ultimate truth ("paramārtha-satya"), can be viewed (as in Platonism) as two levels of reality (two types of truth) or as two objects of knowledge. The former view comes close to abolishing the Two Truths, replacing the division by the One Truth of the ultimate (negating conventional truth as a whole). The latter maintains the division."
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://www.sofiatopia.org/bodhi/two_truths.htm
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>>>
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