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[MarshaV]

On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:18 AM, X Acto wrote:

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>> Ron:
>> Also it seems to conflict with the idea that DQ is "everchanging" for change is making
>> the conscious splitting from past to present into "this and that".
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> Marsha:
> Dynamic Quality is indeterminate.  It promotes change in static quality, but is, 
> in conventional terms, itself indivisible, undefinable and unknowable.  If you are 
> going to assign some absolute meaning to "not this, not that" you've missed the point. 
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>> Ron:
>> Therefore I have my doubts as to the effective use of the term "not this, not that" as the best
>> general understanding of DQ.
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> Marsha:
> If the expression doesn't work for you, don't use it.  But I'd like to know if you are suggesting 
> there is suppose to be a one-size-fits-all general understanding?  How would that be 
> determined?  Are you going to chase everybody who disagrees with you off this list and 
> then come to an agreement?  
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> Ron:
> "Not this, not that" directly refers to the more general meaning of DQ as "the good".
> Intellectually The Good is nothing in particular but some things ARE better than others.
> What makes some things better than others is the driving force of existence it is the 
> basic creative idea of life. Therefore focus on what is best out weighs and has greater
> meaning than the rejection of particulars.

Marsha:
Well, this is what you think.  


> Ron:

> Some ideas are better than others, static patterns of marsha, those who leave can't explain
> their reasons as to why their concepts are better than others so they mask that inabilty with
> rhetorical games evasion and defensive posturing.

Marsha:
Whatever...  


> Ron:
> Often those with large egos have a hard time dealing with it and choose to leave over reflecting
> on their reasons for their beliefs.

Marsha:
Whatever...   I know the difference between a conversation and an interrogation.   Often those with 
large egos want to label others to pump up themselves.  

 
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