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> Ron:
> Also it seems to conflict with the idea that DQ is "everchanging" for change is making
> the conscious splitting from past to present into "this and that".

Marsha:
Dynamic Quality is indeterminate.  It promotes change in static quality, but is, 
in conventional terms, itself indivisible, undefinable and unknowable.  If you are 
going to assign some absolute meaning to "not this, not that" you've missed the point. 


> Ron:
> Therefore I have my doubts as to the effective use of the term "not this, not that" as the best
> general understanding of DQ.

Marsha:
If the expression doesn't work for you, don't use it.  But I'd like to know if you are suggesting 
there is suppose to be a one-size-fits-all general understanding?  How would that be 
determined?  Are you going to chase everybody who disagrees with you off this list and 
then come to an agreement?  

Ron:
"Not this, not that" directly refers to the more general meaning of DQ as "the good".
Intellectually The Good is nothing in particular but some things ARE better than others.
What makes some things better than others is the driving force of existence it is the 
basic creative idea of life. Therefore focus on what is best out weighs and has greater
meaning than the rejection of particulars.

Some ideas are better than others, static patterns of marsha, those who leave can't explain
their reasons as to why their concepts are better than others so they mask that inabilty with
rhetorical games evasion and defensive posturing.

Often those with large egos have a hard time dealing with it and choose to leave over reflecting
on their reasons for their beliefs.

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