[MD] The Relativist's journey

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Wed Nov 30 09:27:48 PST 2011


Hi Joe,
All I am saying is that our logic is a function of evolution.  That
is, logic arises from evolution.  I do agree that logic has both DQ
and SQ components, and that their interaction gives logic its meaning.
 Intellect is not the same as the Intellectual Level, just like
society is not the same as the Social Level.  The levels are processes
and not end products, imo.
Mark

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> I disagree that evolution identifies logic.  Logic makes its appearance at
> the intellectual level.  There is no logic in an emotional DQ only level,
> only possibility.  How can I argue that emotions are a DQ level in evolution
> when I agree that emotions are indefinable DQ only?  Intellect embraces
> evolution DQ/SQ and logic is born.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 11/27/11 4:07 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Logic?
>> Logic starts with an assumption and then builds a scaffolding up from that.
>> If it is seen as worthy, then people try to live in it.  If they change their
>> mind about the assumption, then they find another place to live.  Some are
>> perfectly happy where they are, others philosophize.
>>
>> Evolution identifies logic, IMO.
>>
>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve and All.
>>>
>>> As I read your statement below the question "What is logic?" presents
>>> itself.  In an evolutionary format logic is from a higher to a lower reality
>>> or vise versa.  Higher or Lower than becomes a judgment call.  Unless we
>>> establish an the order for evolution "Says you!" is the final arbiter in
>>> logic.  And I am posting to an endless debate.
>>>
>>> I would like to answer "What is logic?" by the declaration "Logic identifies
>>> the order in existence!"  Evolution!
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/27/11 1:54 PM, "Steven Peterson" <peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only bad news that Rorty
>>>> had was that there is no way to hold all of your assumptions in question at
>>>> once. That doesn't leave us with nothing. Though we can't step outside of
>>>> history and culture, but we can still think critically about our own
>>>> tradition.
>>>
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