[MD] "Could have acted differently" v. "the extent to which we perceive DQ"

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Dan]
I would say they are both.

[Arlo]
I don't know, you are saying (if I understand) there is DQ and there are
illusions. Nothing else. So you'd support calling SQ, perhaps, "inorganic
illusions, biological illusions, social illusions and intellectual illusions"? 

For the life of me I can't see a single thing of pragmatic, experiential value
that comes from this, do you really think the bombs (as Pirsig mentions in ZMM)
that exploded over Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "illusions"? 

"Illusions" are the effect of S/O thinking, they are the "real objects" or
"subjectivism" that the MOQ argues against. 

[Dan]
True. It is human nature to sorrow over past mistakes. Artists use that emotion
without wallowing in it. At least that's what I do, and I presume others might
do the same.

[Arlo]
Well I think sorrow is but one outcome of having a temporal symbology.
Anticipation is another. Regret and dreams, sorrow and desire.

[Dan]
Bartender... another round....

[Arlo]
Cheers!