[MD] "Could have acted differently" v. "the extent to which we perceive DQ"

[MarshaV]

Horse,

I see no disagreement in what you've written here.  None at all.  None.  None.  None!    I thought the Reality is Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience) is just what you were saying too.  And I think you are correct about bringing 'delusion' into the discussion.   


Marsha   



On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Horse wrote:

> So where are we disagreeing?
> Quality is Reality.
> Quality is DQ and SQ.
> Reality is DQ and SQ.
> SQ alone is not Reality.
> DQ alone is not Reality.
> So where are we disagreeing?
> 
> Horse
> 
> 
> On 11/09/2011 13:11, MarshaV wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Horse wrote:
>> 
>>> Static patterns of value are ideas about reality and not the experience of reality - SQ is our attempt to order reality and order it in a way that makes sense - or agrees with the senses. But "I's", "O's", "S's" and "I's" no more "exist" than "S's" or "O's" - i.e. they are all deduced from Quality and are not primary. IPOV's are a better way of carving up Quality than S/O, but it is Quality that is Reality.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Horse,
>> 
>> Oh dear...   Hmmm...  I won't get into the I-level conflict, because:  Reality is Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience) is as pure as it gets.  imho.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
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