[MD] Free will according to the MOQ

ARLO J BENSINGER JR ajb102 at psu.edu
Thu Sep 15 18:20:35 PDT 2011


[Mark]
Why don't you do the rest of us a favor and answer Ham's ingenuous question as
he suggested?  

[Arlo]
Because I have no interest in a dialogue he has already decided upon. Is that
hard for you to comprehend?  

[Mark]
As soon as you begin attacking Ham on issues that have nothing of substance and
have nothing to do with the subject, you look like a complete idiot!  

[Arlo]
I wasn't attacking Ham, your kneejerk reaction is idiotic. Ham offers nothing
but how Pirsig is wrong and "Essentialism" is right. Its been that way since
day one with him. If you want to play with him, by all means, do so.

Tell you what, Mark, I can post two dozen quotes from Ham beginning with
yesterday where he calls Pirsig's philosophy everything from incomprehensible
to inconsistent. Can you post that many where he had anything positive to say
about Pirsig's ideas? How far back do you think YOU will have to go? 

[Mark]
All evidence points to the presence of a sensible agent as Ham calls it.  To
deny that is to put your head in the sand!

[Arlo]
I deny it. Pirsig denies it. The MOQ denies it. So why the fuck are YOU here?
Are you looking to redeem the wayward masses as well? Sell us on some
"individualistic essentialism"? 

I mean really, if you disagree with the core of his ideas, isn't there a
Randian or Essentialism forum where you and Ham can give each other's "sensible
agents" a friendly reach-around?





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