[MD] Awareness and consciousness in the MOQ

[Andre]

David to Andre:
Thats fine. So long as you're willing to change when something better 
comes along.

Andre:
Always.

David:
All things, including the term Quality, are a demarcation of outlines or limits. In fact, every thing is.

Andre:
Quality, the Tao, the Buddhist " Nothingness" has 'limits? Is some sort of 'demarcation'? What , then lies outside of it? (which, by definition (!) it must). If we are talking 'from the world of the Buddha' nothing lies outside of Quality. It is limitless, is outside (prior to) time, outside (prior to) space.

Pirsig seeks to preserve this and that's why, from a static point of view DQ is a referring term.

David:
Any word that you use, any demarcation of outline or limit is a restriction of the ultimate Dynamic Quality.

He doesn't say he is 'partially' defining it by outlining a Metaphysics.

Andre:
No, I say that any definition is partial, an approximation, a finger pointing to. You can never 'get' it. Any definition of DQ is not DQ. It is sq. You can indefinitely define DQ and never 'get' it. That is why DQ is not 'part' of the MOQ. It is a referring term.

David:
"The rest of us have to settle for being something less pure. Getting drunk and picking up bar-ladies and writing metaphysics is a part of life."
Once he was able to put aside the 'undefinition' of quality that he arrived at in ZMM he was then able to delve into the static quality of the MOQ and get really drunk!

Andre:
Agree.