[MD] Awareness and consciousness in the MOQ

[Andre]

Joe to Andre and All:
I don't know your take on evolution. MOQ indefinable DQ definable SQ 
creates a framework for thought. Both exist.

Andre:
I agree Joe. The idea of evolution is part and parcel of the MOQ. It is 
the basis for its hierarchy of values/morals. You know: inorganic, 
organic, social and intellectual patterns of value.

Joe:
The indefinable is not non existent! There are some thoughts for 
evolution which are beyond logic like inorganic and organic existence 
which requires a change in metaphysics.

Andre:
I agree. The 'change' in [traditional] metaphysics is the MOQ.

Joe:
For myself when I see DQ I immediately go to the emotional bag and pull 
something out. That is the value of MOQ. We have something to talk about 
even though emotions are indefinable.

Andre:
Well, we've gone over this many times before Joe. Emotions, as they are 
used and applied within the MOQ are biological responses to quality and 
not quality itself. Emotions have been defined in many different ways 
that are, I believe, very useful.

However, you did use the term 'love' once. I can relate to that from 
both perspectives (as they are used in the MOQ). There is 'love' as a 
biological response to quality and there is 'love' as used in the 
various wisdom, perennial philosophical traditions (the so called 
'contemplative' traditions). The use of the term 'love' here is used 
from the perspective of the 'world of the Buddhas' , from the 
perspective of Dynamic Quality. Here as well I think that the difference 
is useful to keep in mind when discussing the MOQ which is a static 
intellectual pattern of quality.

Joe:
It becomes even more interesting when I read that reality is grouped in 
a hierarchy, evolution. What is the model? For many years it was SOM. 
SOM placed definition before reality and could not answer some 
questions: What is evolution? Levels in existence!

Andre:
I am not quite sure what you are trying to say through this post Joe. I 
mean, what's your point?
I would like to amend your last sentence slightly though by suggesting 
that evolution in the MOQ is perceived as levels of experience... to 
wit: as an evolution of values.

Cheers Joe.