[MD] humpty dumpty

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[DMB]
I think Pierce is saying that the desire to rid one's self of doubt is only natural or normal BUT he's saying that some ways of solving this problem are much better than others.

[Arlo]
Agree, and I think Pirsig says the same thing; the desire to achieve peace of mind, and rid oneself of the disturbing feeling that something is 'wrong', is only natural, and there are some ways of achieving this that are much better than others.

I think those are identical sentiments.

[DMB]
It very much matters HOW we banish doubt, uncertainty, confusion, etc. and HOW we settle on a belief. 

[Arlo]
For sure, and THIS, I thought was the leading question that was being asked, and how we got 'here' from 'there'.

[Ron interjects:]
If I understood Peirce correctly, he suggests alining beliefs with natural order along with inquirey, 
aligning with natural order is alignment with direct experience. The question of HOW is an interesting
one, what I have noticed and I think why others have a problem with associating Pragmatism and
Bhuddism is that Pragmatism lacks the inducement of an "aporia" effect that has the same sort of
impact as a Bhuddist aporia or the same mystique it holds in popular culture.
What it seems to boil down to is what James had pointed to the rationalistic temperment vs an empirical
temperment toward HOW beliefs are aligned with direct experience and the certain brand of rationalistic
temperment which rests on unity and arrests intellectual development.
My experience with Bhuddism was via the martial arts and it was a guide to action not inaction or, the martial
arts would not be associated with it nor employ it or be as deeply intertwined and rooted with it.
Taisen Deshimaru was a great influence on the Pragmatic aspect of Zen being both a master swordsman
and master Soto Zen Bhuddist.
 
"Making the most of our abilities is identifying ourselves with Buddha or God. I would say that we must first of all know ourselves completely, then put the best of ourselves to use by cutting through the passions that lead us to use ourselves badly. This way, we raise ourselves up on our own summit, a peak dazzling with a light that contains the whole universe, and we brandish the sharp blade of wisdom. In other words, seizing the sword of wisdom is carrying human abilities to their optimum worth."
 
-Taiesen Deshimaru