[MD] Good Mystic, Bad Mystic.

[X Acto]

> dmb says of Marsha:
> In short, it's contradictory in the extreme.

Marsha replies:
The poet Baudelaire said that “true genius is the ability to hold two contradictory thoughts simultaneously without losing your mind.”

Ron expands apon his meaning:
For value to exist meaning must exist.
Therefore what Baudelaire is saying is that a true genius can apprehend meaninglessness intellectually
and not be disturbed by it. It's another way of pointing to empirical immediate experience to determine
meaning and avoiding rational abstractions.
 
People don't act meaninglessly or do things for meaningless reasons, that they act on anything
is that it holds value, it holds meaning, or else why avoid an open well when it would be just
as good to fall in?  the fact that some
patterns are better than others means that some patterns are more meaningful than others, some 
are more valuable than others and some are therefore more "true" than others.
 
I would think on a forum dedicated to Bob Pirsigs MoQ one would not have to preface
every use of the word "truth" with "provisional" or "conditional" because no one who
subscribes to this forum needs to be constantly reminded that "truth" is not an abstract
absolute! or we would not be here! how about a show of hands, exactly who
DOES think truth is absolute? anyone? anyone at ALL?
 
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