[MD] Good Mystic, Bad Mystic.

[Jan Anders Andersson]

Hi All

I think Value is real, the meaning of a word also. If it wasn't, why choose one word instead of another, why argue at all?

Bla bla bla and so on, oops, forget that hypothetical nonsense

Jan Anders


22 aug 2012 kl. 18:53 skrev X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>:

>> dmb says of Marsha:
>> In short, it's contradictory in the extreme.
> 
> Marsha replies:
> The poet Baudelaire said that “true genius is the ability to hold two contradictory thoughts simultaneously without losing your mind.”
> 
> Ron expands apon his meaning:
> For value to exist meaning must exist.
> Therefore what Baudelaire is saying is that a true genius can apprehend meaninglessness intellectually
> and not be disturbed by it. It's another way of pointing to empirical immediate experience to determine
> meaning and avoiding rational abstractions.
>  
> People don't act meaninglessly or do things for meaningless reasons, that they act on anything
> is that it holds value, it holds meaning, or else why avoid an open well when it would be just
> as good to fall in?  the fact that some
> patterns are better than others means that some patterns are more meaningful than others, some 
> are more valuable than others and some are therefore more "true" than others.
>  
> I would think on a forum dedicated to Bob Pirsigs MoQ one would not have to preface
> every use of the word "truth" with "provisional" or "conditional" because no one who
> subscribes to this forum needs to be constantly reminded that "truth" is not an abstract
> absolute! or we would not be here! how about a show of hands, exactly who
> DOES think truth is absolute? anyone? anyone at ALL?
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