[MD] Good Mystic, Bad Mystic.

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Hi You,

Yes, of course it is real, we create it.  Meaning is something that we
continuously create.  I suppose that if none of that is real, then
neither are we.  Hypothetically speaking of course...

Namaste,

Mark

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jan Anders Andersson
<jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I think Value is real, the meaning of a word also. If it wasn't, why choose one word instead of another, why argue at all?
>
> Bla bla bla and so on, oops, forget that hypothetical nonsense
>
> Jan Anders
>
>
> 22 aug 2012 kl. 18:53 skrev X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>:
>
>>> dmb says of Marsha:
>>> In short, it's contradictory in the extreme.
>>
>> Marsha replies:
>> The poet Baudelaire said that “true genius is the ability to hold two contradictory thoughts simultaneously without losing your mind.”
>>
>> Ron expands apon his meaning:
>> For value to exist meaning must exist.
>> Therefore what Baudelaire is saying is that a true genius can apprehend meaninglessness intellectually
>> and not be disturbed by it. It's another way of pointing to empirical immediate experience to determine
>> meaning and avoiding rational abstractions.
>>
>> People don't act meaninglessly or do things for meaningless reasons, that they act on anything
>> is that it holds value, it holds meaning, or else why avoid an open well when it would be just
>> as good to fall in?  the fact that some
>> patterns are better than others means that some patterns are more meaningful than others, some
>> are more valuable than others and some are therefore more "true" than others.
>>
>> I would think on a forum dedicated to Bob Pirsigs MoQ one would not have to preface
>> every use of the word "truth" with "provisional" or "conditional" because no one who
>> subscribes to this forum needs to be constantly reminded that "truth" is not an abstract
>> absolute! or we would not be here! how about a show of hands, exactly who
>> DOES think truth is absolute? anyone? anyone at ALL?
>>
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