[MD] Good Mystic, Bad Mystic.

[Jan Anders Andersson]

Hi Mark

It is easier to read when you write in a friendly tone. I appreciate that.

But how can I be sure about your intentions?

"L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs."

Jan Anders


25 aug 2012 kl. 07.18 skrev 118:

> Hi You,
> 
> Yes, of course it is real, we create it.  Meaning is something that we
> continuously create.  I suppose that if none of that is real, then
> neither are we.  Hypothetically speaking of course...
> 
> Namaste,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jan Anders Andersson
> <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>> Hi All
>> 
>> I think Value is real, the meaning of a word also. If it wasn't, why choose one word instead of another, why argue at all?
>> 
>> Bla bla bla and so on, oops, forget that hypothetical nonsense
>> 
>> Jan Anders
>> 
>> 
>> 22 aug 2012 kl. 18:53 skrev X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>:
>> 
>>>> dmb says of Marsha:
>>>> In short, it's contradictory in the extreme.
>>> 
>>> Marsha replies:
>>> The poet Baudelaire said that “true genius is the ability to hold two contradictory thoughts simultaneously without losing your mind.”
>>> 
>>> Ron expands apon his meaning:
>>> For value to exist meaning must exist.
>>> Therefore what Baudelaire is saying is that a true genius can apprehend meaninglessness intellectually
>>> and not be disturbed by it. It's another way of pointing to empirical immediate experience to determine
>>> meaning and avoiding rational abstractions.
>>> 
>>> People don't act meaninglessly or do things for meaningless reasons, that they act on anything
>>> is that it holds value, it holds meaning, or else why avoid an open well when it would be just
>>> as good to fall in?  the fact that some
>>> patterns are better than others means that some patterns are more meaningful than others, some
>>> are more valuable than others and some are therefore more "true" than others.
>>> 
>>> I would think on a forum dedicated to Bob Pirsigs MoQ one would not have to preface
>>> every use of the word "truth" with "provisional" or "conditional" because no one who
>>> subscribes to this forum needs to be constantly reminded that "truth" is not an abstract
>>> absolute! or we would not be here! how about a show of hands, exactly who
>>> DOES think truth is absolute? anyone? anyone at ALL?
>>> 
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