[MD] Good Mystic, Bad Mystic.

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Fri Aug 24 17:01:00 PDT 2012


Hi Joe,
I am not sure about the emptiness.  It is only empty if you expect to find some thing.  As it is, we create such things.  We do not create them out of nothing.  So it is far from empty.

Consider the ghost (or structure) of reason.  We build it.  We do not replace emptiness with this ghost.  MOQ is such a ghost.  What we are is creativity.


Mark

On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> O as nothing is indefinable.  O as pre-intellectual is open to an emotional
> emptiness, perception, enabling Pirsig to describe metaphysics as DQ/SQ.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 8/23/12 9:40 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> However, you point out a difference, in common perception, between
>> physics and metaphysics when you state that DQ cannot be assigned a
>> value.  However, if you think about it, what is zero?  Basically it is
>> the absence of "Some Thing".  We could say that DQ is also the absence
>> of "Some Thing".  So I wouldn't necessarily say that they are not an
>> expression for the same "thing".
> 
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