[MD] Good Mystic, Bad Mystic.

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Mark and All,

I agree Creation from nothing is beyond my capabilities.  I can accept a
creative arrangement for existing DQ/SQ, the ghost MOQ.

Joe


On 8/24/12 5:01 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joe,
> I am not sure about the emptiness.  It is only empty if you expect to find
> some thing.  As it is, we create such things.  We do not create them out of
> nothing.  So it is far from empty.
> 
> Consider the ghost (or structure) of reason.  We build it.  We do not replace
> emptiness with this ghost.  MOQ is such a ghost.  What we are is creativity.
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> O as nothing is indefinable.  O as pre-intellectual is open to an emotional
>> emptiness, perception, enabling Pirsig to describe metaphysics as DQ/SQ.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/23/12 9:40 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> However, you point out a difference, in common perception, between
>>> physics and metaphysics when you state that DQ cannot be assigned a
>>> value.  However, if you think about it, what is zero?  Basically it is
>>> the absence of "Some Thing".  We could say that DQ is also the absence
>>> of "Some Thing".  So I wouldn't necessarily say that they are not an
>>> expression for the same "thing".
>> 
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