[MD] a flimsy canopy of patterns

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Marsha,

Existence is prior to value?  I accept DQ/SQ in existence.  The question
raised: How can I experience the indefinable?  I posit DQ without SQ in
metaphysical terms and it seems that the unity of existence is compromised
by a definition viewing definable/indefinable levels in existence.

In physical terms the boundaries of existence are blurred.  Existence seems
to be flexible e.g., snow and water.  Does that indicate that evolution
involves a metaphysical discussion of levels in existence?

Value is a relationship.  MOQ speaks differently of value in
indefinable/definable terms for quality reality instead of SOM duality in
Existence!

Joe 


On 12/23/12 12:35 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> Thank you for your humble opinion, and thank you for the opportunity to fix my
> statement:    
> 
> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but Value
> which can be experienced as patterned (static) and unpatterned (Dynamic).
> 
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 22, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi MarshaV,
>> 
>> IMHO you are equating value and existence.  How is existential DQ different
>> from existential SQ?  Definition!  Can the definition of a DQ/SQ metaphysics
>> encompass reality?
>> 
>> IMHO something is omited by definition  Indefinable DQ!  The awareness of DQ
>> is indefinable.  I call an aspect of awareness indefinable?  How is
>> awareness different from a knowing which embraces indefinable DQ/SQ?
>> 
>> My answer is that I experience the indefinable.  Tie individual, experience,
>> and reality together.  DQ/SQ.  There are levels in existence!
>> 
>> Joe     
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/22/12 5:52 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Joe,
>>> 
>>> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but Value
>>> which can be experienced as patterned (Static) and unpatterned (Dynamic).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>>>> 
>>>> This statement requires a very careful exposition.  Life manifests Dynamic
>>>> Quality.  The metaphysics leading to the self, perceiving death, like
>>>> heroism, can be horribly misled.  The question of behavior in a
>>>> dynamic/static environment must look at death as static, nothing will
>>>> change. All heroic dynamic decisions will be negated to the individual in a
>>>> lack of existence.
>>>> 
>>>> How in the hell did I ever get on this tangent?
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/20/12 12:24 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> "To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by static patterns of
>>>>> quality
>>>>> it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic Quality,
>>>>> which is undefinable, one's behavior is free."
>>>> 
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