[MD] a flimsy canopy of patterns

[MarshaV]

Hi Joe,

Analogy!!!    

 
Marsha. 



On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> Existence is prior to value?  I accept DQ/SQ in existence.  The question
> raised: How can I experience the indefinable?  I posit DQ without SQ in
> metaphysical terms and it seems that the unity of existence is compromised
> by a definition viewing definable/indefinable levels in existence.
> 
> In physical terms the boundaries of existence are blurred.  Existence seems
> to be flexible e.g., snow and water.  Does that indicate that evolution
> involves a metaphysical discussion of levels in existence?
> 
> Value is a relationship.  MOQ speaks differently of value in
> indefinable/definable terms for quality reality instead of SOM duality in
> Existence!
> 
> Joe 
> 
> 
> On 12/23/12 12:35 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> Thank you for your humble opinion, and thank you for the opportunity to fix my
>> statement:    
>> 
>> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but Value
>> which can be experienced as patterned (static) and unpatterned (Dynamic).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 22, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi MarshaV,
>>> 
>>> IMHO you are equating value and existence.  How is existential DQ different
>>> from existential SQ?  Definition!  Can the definition of a DQ/SQ metaphysics
>>> encompass reality?
>>> 
>>> IMHO something is omited by definition  Indefinable DQ!  The awareness of DQ
>>> is indefinable.  I call an aspect of awareness indefinable?  How is
>>> awareness different from a knowing which embraces indefinable DQ/SQ?
>>> 
>>> My answer is that I experience the indefinable.  Tie individual, experience,
>>> and reality together.  DQ/SQ.  There are levels in existence!
>>> 
>>> Joe     
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/22/12 5:52 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>> 
>>>> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but Value
>>>> which can be experienced as patterned (Static) and unpatterned (Dynamic).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This statement requires a very careful exposition.  Life manifests Dynamic
>>>>> Quality.  The metaphysics leading to the self, perceiving death, like
>>>>> heroism, can be horribly misled.  The question of behavior in a
>>>>> dynamic/static environment must look at death as static, nothing will
>>>>> change. All heroic dynamic decisions will be negated to the individual in a
>>>>> lack of existence.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How in the hell did I ever get on this tangent?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/20/12 12:24 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> "To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by static patterns of
>>>>>> quality
>>>>>> it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic Quality,
>>>>>> which is undefinable, one's behavior is free."
>>>>> 
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