[MD] The first cut.

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed Jan 25 10:26:39 PST 2012 


Mark,

Not always.  Sometimes your style seems more like argumentum verbosum rather than a sincere attempt at understanding "my metaphysics".  Too many questions coming from too many directions to seem sincere, but I don't know for sure so in fairness I try to answer them, just to have you respond by sending a ton more.  Really Mark?  And I'm sure every other poster rolling their eyes in disgust.  Really Mark?  Such a clever lad...  

Now I think I'll end for the day.  

Thanks


Marsha 


Sent from my iPad

On Jan 25, 2012, at 11:52 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> I guess I am a dancing penguin.  I can live with that, so long as you
> are entertained by it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 1/25/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings Mark,
>> 
>> Your questions...  If I glance in the direction of sq, then you dance, flap
>> your wings, and warble on with questions about DQ.  If I glance in the
>> direction of DQ, then you dance, flap your wings, and warble on with
>> questions about sq.  Hahahaha...
>> 
>> Save the sarcasm, it's too easy to forget.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:07 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Marsha,
>>> Is what I smell what I smell?  What a novel concept you are
>>> presenting, I will have to remember that one.
>>> 
>>> Is what you think not what you thinK?  Just wondering... Or, is what
>>> you think RELATIVE to what I think?  That would be interesting...We
>>> could explore how your relativism works here.  Or perhaps you have
>>> dropped that nonsense.  No reply needed, Please!
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the rhetorical enlightenment.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> What you think is what you think.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:17 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>> I do not place the concept of patterns above Self.  This is demeaning in
>>>>> my view.  Patterns are just an intellectual construct, and we are more
>>>>> than just intellect in my view.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, and in my garage it is Ormus.  Google it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In my understanding there is no homunculus to be a mystic.  As I have
>>>>>> stated many times before, it is my understanding that within the MoQ,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent,
>>>>>> impermanent and conceptualized static patterns of inorganic,
>>>>>> biological,
>>>>>> social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So how could someone BE a mystic?  Maybe by Dave Harding's
>>>>>> pronouncement?
>>>>>> I don't think so.  BUt fhow about you?  What kind of transformation are
>>>>>> you working towards in your garage?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, 118 wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marsha,
>>>>>>> You CAN be a mystic if you want to.  It simply takes effort.  Look to
>>>>>>> Buddhist training.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am not a mystic.  And on what basis, other some a trumped up
>>>>>>>> conceptual
>>>>>>>> construct, do you call me such a thing?  You're full of baloney...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:27 AM, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why do you call Marsha names such as an 'eel in the bucket'? I get
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> she is frustrating because she doesn't want to accept that sq is
>>>>>>>>> old,
>>>>>>>>> fixed and complex.  But she is right in the end no? Ultimately
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> aren't static.  I call her a Mystic because I try and point out that
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> person who denies they are ruining the undefinable ultimate reality
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> fixed definitions, is still defining. They are called Mystics. But
>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>> not wrong.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The Metaphysics of Quality expands our mystical understanding of the
>>>>>>>>> universe.  It isn't in direct opposition to it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Curiously,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -David.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 23/01/2012, at 6:15 AM, Andre wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Marsha to Andre:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> whatever...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>>>>>> Brilliant Marsha...absolutely/relatively brilliant!!! The typical
>>>>>>>>>> response of an eel in the bucket.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> hives.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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