[MD] The first cut.

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Marsha,
I am not sure what you are hiding.  But, it seems to me like you are
running from shelter to shelter.  All my questions are simply the
same.  I want you to think about what you are presenting, rather than
the knee jerk stuff you respond with.
Cheers,
Mark

On 1/25/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
>
> Not always.  Sometimes your style seems more like argumentum verbosum rather
> than a sincere attempt at understanding "my metaphysics".  Too many
> questions coming from too many directions to seem sincere, but I don't know
> for sure so in fairness I try to answer them, just to have you respond by
> sending a ton more.  Really Mark?  And I'm sure every other poster rolling
> their eyes in disgust.  Really Mark?  Such a clever lad...
>
> Now I think I'll end for the day.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 25, 2012, at 11:52 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marsha,
>>
>> I guess I am a dancing penguin.  I can live with that, so long as you
>> are entertained by it.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 1/25/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings Mark,
>>>
>>> Your questions...  If I glance in the direction of sq, then you dance,
>>> flap
>>> your wings, and warble on with questions about DQ.  If I glance in the
>>> direction of DQ, then you dance, flap your wings, and warble on with
>>> questions about sq.  Hahahaha...
>>>
>>> Save the sarcasm, it's too easy to forget.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:07 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marsha,
>>>> Is what I smell what I smell?  What a novel concept you are
>>>> presenting, I will have to remember that one.
>>>>
>>>> Is what you think not what you thinK?  Just wondering... Or, is what
>>>> you think RELATIVE to what I think?  That would be interesting...We
>>>> could explore how your relativism works here.  Or perhaps you have
>>>> dropped that nonsense.  No reply needed, Please!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the rhetorical enlightenment.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> What you think is what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:17 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>>> I do not place the concept of patterns above Self.  This is demeaning
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> my view.  Patterns are just an intellectual construct, and we are more
>>>>>> than just intellect in my view.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and in my garage it is Ormus.  Google it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my understanding there is no homunculus to be a mystic.  As I have
>>>>>>> stated many times before, it is my understanding that within the MoQ,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent,
>>>>>>> impermanent and conceptualized static patterns of inorganic,
>>>>>>> biological,
>>>>>>> social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic
>>>>>>> Quality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So how could someone BE a mystic?  Maybe by Dave Harding's
>>>>>>> pronouncement?
>>>>>>> I don't think so.  BUt fhow about you?  What kind of transformation
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> you working towards in your garage?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, 118 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marsha,
>>>>>>>> You CAN be a mystic if you want to.  It simply takes effort.  Look
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> Buddhist training.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not a mystic.  And on what basis, other some a trumped up
>>>>>>>>> conceptual
>>>>>>>>> construct, do you call me such a thing?  You're full of baloney...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:27 AM, David Harding
>>>>>>>>> <davidjharding at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you call Marsha names such as an 'eel in the bucket'? I get
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> she is frustrating because she doesn't want to accept that sq is
>>>>>>>>>> old,
>>>>>>>>>> fixed and complex.  But she is right in the end no? Ultimately
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>> aren't static.  I call her a Mystic because I try and point out
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> person who denies they are ruining the undefinable ultimate
>>>>>>>>>> reality
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> fixed definitions, is still defining. They are called Mystics. But
>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>> not wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Metaphysics of Quality expands our mystical understanding of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> universe.  It isn't in direct opposition to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Curiously,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/01/2012, at 6:15 AM, Andre wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marsha to Andre:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> whatever...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>>>>>>> Brilliant Marsha...absolutely/relatively brilliant!!! The typical
>>>>>>>>>>> response of an eel in the bucket.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hives.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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