[MD] pure experience (DQ)

[MarshaV]

Jan-Anders,

More mirroring and this time you quote your voice through Elsa...  Zzzzzz.   


Marsha 




On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:

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> Dear Marsha
> 
> Is this is a true sentence?
> 
> Please take a cloose look at the excerpt from the dialogue between Mark and Ant that I mirrored.
> 
> Writing and reading are events. They have quality or we can say; Quality has them.
> That doesn't necessary mean that the writer or the reader know how to communicate.
> 
> Communication is an event. It has quality ... blah, blah, blah ... for better or worse.
> 
> Events are real, they exist, or we shouldn't be able to know about them.
> Events have characteristics, order, form or else we couldn't separate them from others.
> Events have Value, or else we could'nt tell what kind of relation it has to us and other events.
> Quality knows which are better and worse balanced. Experience shows that.
> 
> Making mudcakes is a good way to know. "Sex is better", Elsa said.
> 
> JanAnders
> 
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> 21 jul 2012 kl. 11.55 skrev MarshaV:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jan-Anders,
>> 
>> Your observation and advice would be mirroring what?  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Mark
>>> 
>>> Sorry about your father. I can see that you are really far out, trapped into something dangerous for you. You are a smart person that can make more people happy somewhere else than here.
>>> 
>>> Stop your worries about MOQ before your brain gets overloaded, take a serious brake, get a hobby, start baking cakes, play the guitar, with girls or do just whatever but not this. Don't write, don't read, use your senses, your hands and your feet.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes and welcome back later
>>> 
>>> Jan Anders
>>> 
>>> 21 jul 2012 kl. 10.01 skrev 118:
>>> 
>>>>>> Mark suggests:
>>>>>> The point is to free oneself from the static.  As you have stated
>>>>>> yourself, "beginner's mind".  Treat each post as something new,
>>>>>> without all that baggage that one brings with one.  Look beyond static
>>>>>> quality.  Look beyond the words in Lila and try to see what the
>>>>>> intentions of them were.  Words are just words, it is what the reader
>>>>>> does with them that matters.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ant counters:
>>>>>> As I've said earlier, the reader is only half the story as regards a
>>>>>> piece of writing.  Otherwise, Hemingway would have never bothered writing (to
>>>>>> himself - in order to help maintain the quality of his writing) in "A
>>>>>> Moveable Feast": "All you have to do is write one true sentence.  Write
>>>>>> the truest sentence you know."
>>>> 
>>>> Mark provides a comment to Ant's counter:
>>>> This Hemingway example is very misguided.  Hemingway had no power over
>>>> the individual who reads his  books.  The Quality of Hemingway's
>>>> writing is a result of people liking his style.  The manner with which
>>>> he writes is inherent to his own creativity and discipline.  If you
>>>> find it to be of high quality, then good for you.  I have to assume
>>>> you are not telling others that they should view it as high quality,
>>>> for that would be contrary to MoQ.  There is no truth to what is
>>>> better.  It is all about Quality.
>>>> 
>>>> You should know better than to bring Truth into this discussion.
>>>> "True" should be replaced with "Quality", and then we revert to
>>>> Pirisg's quote on knowing what is good and bad.  Or does "the" MOQ
>>>> have nothing to do with what Pirsig has written?
>>> 
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