[MD] pure experience (DQ)

[Jan Anders Andersson]

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No, it was me who wrote that.

I'd say just anything to please you, dear.

Jan Andrs

21 jul 2012 kl. 14.44 skrev MarshaV:

> 
> Jan-Anders,
> 
> More mirroring and this time you quote your voice through Elsa...  Zzzzzz.   
> 
> 
> Marsha 
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> On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
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>> Dear Marsha
>> 
>> Is this is a true sentence?
>> 
>> Please take a cloose look at the excerpt from the dialogue between Mark and Ant that I mirrored.
>> 
>> Writing and reading are events. They have quality or we can say; Quality has them.
>> That doesn't necessary mean that the writer or the reader know how to communicate.
>> 
>> Communication is an event. It has quality ... blah, blah, blah ... for better or worse.
>> 
>> Events are real, they exist, or we shouldn't be able to know about them.
>> Events have characteristics, order, form or else we couldn't separate them from others.
>> Events have Value, or else we could'nt tell what kind of relation it has to us and other events.
>> Quality knows which are better and worse balanced. Experience shows that.
>> 
>> Making mudcakes is a good way to know. "Sex is better", Elsa said.
>> 
>> JanAnders
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>> 21 jul 2012 kl. 11.55 skrev MarshaV:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jan-Anders,
>>> 
>>> Your observation and advice would be mirroring what?  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey Mark
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry about your father. I can see that you are really far out, trapped into something dangerous for you. You are a smart person that can make more people happy somewhere else than here.
>>>> 
>>>> Stop your worries about MOQ before your brain gets overloaded, take a serious brake, get a hobby, start baking cakes, play the guitar, with girls or do just whatever but not this. Don't write, don't read, use your senses, your hands and your feet.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes and welcome back later
>>>> 
>>>> Jan Anders
>>>> 
>>>> 21 jul 2012 kl. 10.01 skrev 118:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark suggests:
>>>>>>> The point is to free oneself from the static.  As you have stated
>>>>>>> yourself, "beginner's mind".  Treat each post as something new,
>>>>>>> without all that baggage that one brings with one.  Look beyond static
>>>>>>> quality.  Look beyond the words in Lila and try to see what the
>>>>>>> intentions of them were.  Words are just words, it is what the reader
>>>>>>> does with them that matters.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ant counters:
>>>>>>> As I've said earlier, the reader is only half the story as regards a
>>>>>>> piece of writing.  Otherwise, Hemingway would have never bothered writing (to
>>>>>>> himself - in order to help maintain the quality of his writing) in "A
>>>>>>> Moveable Feast": "All you have to do is write one true sentence.  Write
>>>>>>> the truest sentence you know."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark provides a comment to Ant's counter:
>>>>> This Hemingway example is very misguided.  Hemingway had no power over
>>>>> the individual who reads his  books.  The Quality of Hemingway's
>>>>> writing is a result of people liking his style.  The manner with which
>>>>> he writes is inherent to his own creativity and discipline.  If you
>>>>> find it to be of high quality, then good for you.  I have to assume
>>>>> you are not telling others that they should view it as high quality,
>>>>> for that would be contrary to MoQ.  There is no truth to what is
>>>>> better.  It is all about Quality.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You should know better than to bring Truth into this discussion.
>>>>> "True" should be replaced with "Quality", and then we revert to
>>>>> Pirisg's quote on knowing what is good and bad.  Or does "the" MOQ
>>>>> have nothing to do with what Pirsig has written?
>>>> 
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