[MD] The hard question

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Marsha,

"The world comes to us in an endless stream of puzzle pieces that we would
like to think all fit together some how, but that in fact never do.  There
are always some pieces like platypi that don't fit and we can either ignore
these pieces or we can give them silly explanations or we can take the whole
puzzle apart and try other ways of assembling it that will include more of
them.  When one takes the whole ill-shaped, misfitting structure of a
subject-object explained universe apart and puts it back together in a
value-centered metaphysics, all kinds of orphaned puzzle pieces fit
beautifully that never fit before.

    (Lila, Chapter 8)

On 6/2/12 12:15 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> 
> "The Metaphysics of Quality subscribes to what is called empiricism. It claims
> that all legitimate human knowledge arises from the senses or by thinking
> about what the senses provide. Most empiricists deny the validity of any
> knowledge gained through imagination, authority, tradition, or purely
> theoretical reasoning. They regard fields such as art, morality, religion, and
> metaphysics as unverifiable. The Metaphysics of Quality varies from this by
> saying that the values of art and morality and even religious mysticism are
> verifiable...". 
> 
>     (LILA, Chapter 8)
> 
> 
> Marsha
>  
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha and all,
>> 
>> I like the phrase "levels in existence" to describe the meaning of
>> evolution.  Pirsig described DQ as indefinable.  In my experience emotional
>> experience fits that description.  The apparatus for knowledge in a sentient
>> being includes emotion and intellect.  Instinctive and definitive
>> characterize DQ/SQ
>> 
>> Describing the apparatus of emotions interacting with thoughts as DQ/SQ is
>> (can you pick a word?)  I am content with Pirsig's indefinable/definable
>> suggestion.
>> 
>> Joe 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/1/12 11:15 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> How do perceptions and the apparatus that shape them interact with patterns?
>>> Do they co-evolve?
>> 
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