[MD] Why are things called patterns?

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Yes, I believe explanation is required.  I do my best to spend some considerate time on that.

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:54 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> And most of the naming-calling was in lieu of presentation, explanation or refutation.  
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> On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:36 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>> Horse,
>> 
>> I do not easily submit.  In this forum I've been called an idiot, an asshole, Lucy, accused of continuous drinking, been called immoral, associated with a snot-bucket, &etc.  What is called browbeating seems, also, to be a subjective term.
>> 
>> Marsha 
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>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
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>>> Mark
>>> Marsha sums up the problem very nicely here.
>>> An onslaught of questions and double standards.
>>> And your ego and controlling nature not allowing you to stop until you have browbeaten everyone else into submission.
>>> Thank you Marsha.
>>> 
>>> Horse
>>> 
>>> On 13/03/2012 11:09, MarshaV wrote:
>>>> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> I am not being belligerent, I'm needing a rest from your onslaught of questions.  I do not think you're evil, but you do demonstrate a double standard.
>>>> 
>>>> This discussion is over…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:42 PM, 118 wrote:
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>>>>> Marsha,
>>>>> Why are you so belligerent.  I have spent some time trying to present things that are understandable.  All I get back are quotes, one liners, or accusations that I am out to get you.  Please review my posts to you, I am not evil.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:46 AM, MarshaV<valkyr at att.net>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And I was looking for clarification when I asked you to explain how I was using the term 'relationship' in an objective fashion.  If you do not understand what I say, figure it out for yourself, and have the experience for yourself, too.  There's nothing I can tell you.  In general, I am quite tired of you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 12:24 PM, 118<ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marsha,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My intention was not to ridicule, never is.  I simply asked for
>>>>>>> clarification so that I can understand what you are presenting.  I
>>>>>>> value different ways of saying things, but I cannot read your mind.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While I still do not understand your "habits that have turned into
>>>>>>> conventions", I will not bug you any more on this, and let Dan do the
>>>>>>> questioning.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you for your response to this ignorant fool.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/12/12, MarshaV<valkyr at att.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I mean habits that have turned into conventions.  Darn!  You allow yourself
>>>>>>>> different ways of saying something.  So when I try it, I get ridicule?  You
>>>>>>>> are like a noisy little child...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 12:01 PM, 118<ununoctiums at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Marsha and Dan,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OK, so now "patterns" are "conventional habits".  This still does not
>>>>>>>>> provide me with any clarity.  What pray tell are "conventional
>>>>>>>>> habits"?  One person's conventional habits can be another's mystery.
>>>>>>>>> Can I say that "conventional habits" are similar to "intuitive
>>>>>>>>> habits"?  This would make such habits more real than the intellectual
>>>>>>>>> patterns that "habits" are imbued with.  If not, please explain what
>>>>>>>>> you are trying to convey by "conventional habits".  It rhymes with
>>>>>>>>> "relational rabbits", this could be what you are saying, but I do not
>>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What is an "unconventional habit?".  Perhaps by explaining that, I can
>>>>>>>>> deduce what a "conventional habit" is, as you use the term.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>> 
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