[MD] Why are things called patterns?

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Tue Mar 20 11:05:33 PDT 2012


Hi Tuukka,
Well put.  MoQ offers a paradigm from which the participant can structure meaning to his personal relationship with reality.

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Tuukka Virtaperko <mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net> wrote:

> All,
> 
> 
> Marsha:
> Static quality is not other than Dynamic Quality; Dynamic Quality is not other than static quality.
> 
> Tuukka:
> In addition, static quality is not the same as DQ, and DQ is not the same as sq.
> 
> Marsha:
> Dan, maybe this is RMP's notion of balance; to know sq/DQ as the same.
> 
> Tuukka:
> What a confusing thing to say!
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Dan:
>>>> "But once the definitions emerge, they are static patterns and no
>>>> longer apply to Dynamic Quality." [RMP]
>>>> 
>>>> So if static quality and Dynamic Quality are known as the same, why
>>>> does Robert Pirsig say once definitions emerge they do not apply to
>>>> Dynamic Quality? If they were known as the same, wouldn't the opposite
>>>> be said to be true?
>>>> 
> 
> Tuukka:
> DQ can be defined, but the definition is useless for traditional logical purposes. See: http://www.todellisuudenomistaja.net/suhteutuvuus-ja-sen-seurauksia/#comment-802
> 
> Dynamic Quality is, technically, a nonrelativizably used predicate. The worst case scenario for using such predicates is that any statement, whose truth value is contingent with regards to the truth value of a nonrelativizably used predicate, is equivalent to a contradiction. And no, I don't care whether anyone understands that previous sentence. People complain to me about all kinds of things.
> 
> From a rather narrow logical point of view, the best case scenario for using predicates nonrelativizably, is that we eventually manage to relativize them in a new and innovative way.
> 
> -Tuukka
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