[MD] The value of static patterns.

[David Harding]

Hi Mark,

> I think that interpretations of MoQ could fall well within the range
> of such "Eastern perspective".  Since the world is becoming more
> harmonious due to global internet and so forth, this mixing should
> result in a combination of the two.  Hopefully the best from each
> world view will be adopted rather than the worst.  Often things sink
> to the lowest common denominator though.

Yeah, however what's best in the Western perspective?

> I do not think the mystical view is where DQ and sq are "one and the
> same".  Within the mystical view there is also DQ and sq, as presented
> in many of the mystical texts.  The dynamic interplay between both
> becomes much more apparent in a mystical view, imo.  The mystical is
> more closely related to "feelings" than actual intellect.  These
> feeling are encapsulated by archetypes (such as snakes and such).  The
> nature of these archetypes is well understood as symbolic, much more
> than words on a page in the West are seen as symbolic.  We have more
> attachment to words than a mystic would.  If we let go of this
> attachment, we allow DQ to have a greater impact on our lives.  One
> can read a book about Argentina, or one can actually go visit.  During
> a visit, the words on the page are inconsequential, and direct
> experience is more important.  Sq does not show what lies behind the
> sq, it can only point there.  DQ provides the show.

So sq is there just to point to DQ? 

> Any teaching should be written in a language that we understand, and
> taught by someone we can relate to.  This "language" must conform to
> the reasoning that we have been educated during the first 12 years of
> our lives (reasoning outside of that is considered "insane"), or the
> education can take a long time.  I believe that MoQ can deliver the
> same result as the studying of Zen.  I believe that Pirsig stated that
> where he "got to" by his Quality approach, was similar to where Zen
> students "get to" with their approach.
> 
> It is important to have a goal in mind with all of these studies, imo.
> Once cannot simply hope to get someplace by shear luck.  If one has
> the appropriate goal with MoQ, I see no reason why it cannot get one
> there.  Even reading Kant's "What is Enlightenment" can bring about
> enlightenment if the goal for doing so is there.
> 
> Hope my answers are not too spontaneous, but they come from the heart.
> I welcome any thoughts of yours on these subjects.

So we just need to have a goal of DQ and not sq? So if I just have a goal of DQ, then I need not worry about the patterns I am creating? 

-David.