[MD] The value of static patterns.

[MarshaV]

Mark,

I mean very numerable.


Marsha

On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:37 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> Innumerable is pretty much the same thing, to me, so it also depends
> on how it is used.  Do you mean "cannot be counted"?  If it cannot be
> counted it cannot be defined, and we arrive at DQ which lies outside
> cause and effect.  If it can be counted, then a better word would be
> "finite".
> 
> From that quote below, the author speaks of "changing himself".
> Logically this form of change occurs outside of cause and effect as
> well.  In this way the author is denying codependent arising.  For
> "changing oneself" is like Immaculate Conception, something that does
> not abide by cause effect logic.
> 
> Just wondering what your thoughts are on my opinions here.
> 
> Regards,
> Mark
> 
> On 3/22/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> It's a quote from Nisargadatta, I would have used the word 'innumerable'.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:30 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> One must be careful how one uses the term "infinite".  It could suggest
>>> that "causes" do not exist.
>>> 
>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:58 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David & Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:46 PM, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> David:
>>>>>>> So we just need to have a goal of DQ and not sq? So if I just have a
>>>>>>> goal of
>>>>>>> DQ, then I need not worry about the patterns I am creating?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark:
>>>>>> Not a goal of DQ, a goal of understanding.  Why do you wish to learn
>>>>>> more about MoQ by participating in this forum?  This is a serious
>>>>>> question, I just want to understand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David:
>>>>> Yes, to understand and in the process make myself a better person.
>>>> 
>>>> Here's something I like to consider:
>>>> 
>>>> "Causes and results are infinite in number and variety.  Everything
>>>> affects everything.  In this universe, when one thing changes, everything
>>>> changes.  Hence the great power of man in changing the world by changing
>>>> himself."
>>>>  (Nisargadatta Maharaj)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
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