[MD] Drivel v MOQ

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Hi dmb,

Is that your final answer to my question?  Which side are you on, Drivel or MoQ?

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Mar 24, 2012, at 10:42 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Mark asked dmb:
> Why do you think that Pirsig differentiates between DQ and sq?  Please try to answer this without any quotes, but with creative thoughts of your own.
> 
> dmb says:
> You want me to explain Pirsig's thinking without making any reference to Pirsig? Why? Because it's the least effective and least authoritative and least credible way to explain these things? Yea, I wouldn't want to use Pirsig quotes, cause then I might risk saying something that's true or accurate. God forbid. We wouldn't want any of that to break out around here. Might be contagious.
> Seriously, why in the world would you want to exclude the very text we are here to discuss! AHHHHHH!
> 
> These people are making crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I posted a big thing just the other day, actually, explaining how that first distinction was born. You wouldn't like it, though. It was full of words and concepts and quotes from Pirsig's book. 
> 
> Free yourself from words by writing? Explain some thoughts without mentioning them? And you're not kidding? 
> Can I get please get a witness? How is it unfair or inaccurate to call this incoherent drivel? It's like a scientific fact, no?
> 
> 
> Mark said:
> Yes, my posts are meant for those who wish for a way out of the static world of thought. The idea is to free oneself from words.
>>> 
>>> dmb says:
>>> This is another good example. First you have the delusional grandiosity wherein the poster claims to transcend the normal limits of thoughts and words and then you have the logical incoherence of the claim. Reading or writing to free yourself from words is like driving your car around to free yourself from fuel consumption. It is a humorously conspicuous performative contradiction. In other words, it's so stupid that it's funny.
> 
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