[MD] The Art of Philosophy

Horse horse at darkstar.uk.net
Sat Oct 20 14:19:01 PDT 2012


Guys, can we please keep away from the party political rhetoric.
I know some of the folk on this list have an election coming up soon so 
it's probably on most of your minds at present.
However, unless it's specifically relevant to Pirsig's MoQ then keep it 
offlist.

Cheers

Horse


On 20/10/2012 19:53, Michael R. Brown wrote:
> On 10/20/2012 11:39 AM, david buchanan wrote:
>
> > pragmatists like James "wanted us to give up 'ideologies'.” 
> Pragmatism, he said, is “the attitude of looking away from first 
> things, principles, ‘categories,’ supposed necessities; and of looking 
> towards last things, fruits, consequences, facts.”
>
> Which is why you say this:
>
> > the most hackneyed and cliched slogans of the GOP.
>
> I.e., mere categories!
>
> > Similarly, Obama's Pragmatic attitude
>
> Which leads him to ignore that his system isn't working, doesn't work, 
> never works, can't work. And spout endless errors. And verbal 
> gyrations. (Benghazi, anyone?)
>
> > no engagement with the ideas
>
> The ideas in the article have been engaged with ad naus inf. The 
> article is mealy-mouthed garbage. The Constitution is a living 
> document because it offers what government needs: firm, fixed limits. 
> Pirsig's Cycle wasn't made of diaphanous goo that wandered all over 
> the road and five miles past it. It had a definite form and presumably 
> still exists. That's what made it all possible. Were Pirsig and his 
> son not separate people, there could have been no realization or 
> connection at the end. Don't get Zen sickness by reducing everything 
> to oneness.
>
> > This is what trolls do. They don't add to any conversation or debate 
> or dialogue. They just shit on it and walk away.
>
> Thank you for a meaningful contribution that doesn't in any way 
> resemble standard liberal/dem/leftist boilerplate trollery. : )
>
> I guess I'm a real MOQ'er now!
>
>
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