[MD] The Art of Philosophy

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Mark and All,

IMHO Moq's base is not the denial of SOM.  Moq's base is evolution which I
perceive as indefinable/definable levels in existence  DQ/SQ.

Joe


On 10/23/12 8:00 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Joe,
> MoQ teaches through SOM that which is not SOM.  MoQ is a classroom for the
> real world.
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark and All,
>> 
>> Logic and Evolution!  If MOQ utilizes the tools of SOM it is SOM logic.
>> Pirsig envisions a different logic embracing an indefinable DQ with
>> definable SQ reality.  In SOM S is definable and O is definable.  MOQ uses
>> different tools from SOM.
>> 
>> IMHO the first tool of MOQ is evolution DQ/SQ, indefinable, definable
>> reality as levels in existence.
>> 
>> The door to existence is opened wider by indefinable experience that SOM
>> cannot tolerate.
>> 
>> Joe 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/22/12 7:51 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Joe, 
>>> I find the analogy that DQ as creativity, and SQ as that created useful for
>>> presenting Quality.  I believe this falls within your presentation of
>>> Quality.
>>> 
>>> MoQ utilizes the tools of SOM because it must objectivize reality in order
>>> to
>>> discuss it.  I prefer to see MoQ as a pair of glasses.  Put them on and
>>> marvel
>>> at existence.  Quality is a positive view.  It does away with the
>>> battlefield
>>> of the objective and relative world.  It provides a world of ever becoming.
>>> 
>>> I appreciate your contributions.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark and All,
>>>> 
>>>> DQ indefinable. SQ definable. Strange bedfellows in reality.
>>>> Indefinable/Definable equals 1?  IMHO  MOQ Metaphysics is not SOM
>>>> mathematics S/O.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/21/12 1:31 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If we use DQ and SQ as variables, a system of homeostasis would
>>>>> be described where the divisional form of this equation always equals 1.
>>>>> Therefore, as DQ increases so must SQ.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>>>> Archives:
>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>>> Archives:
>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>> 
>> 
>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>> Archives:
>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org/md/archives.html