[MD] belief

[Horse]

Hi Marsha
That's fine - there were no threats etc., implied or otherwise.
I just wanted a straight answer to a straight question - I'm not trying 
to trick you into anything!

The problem with your previous answer, I found, was that while it made 
sense to you it wasn't clear, to me, what you were saying.

As a matter of interest, what do you see as the difference between 
saying that the MoQ is an Intellectual/Conceptual metaphysical system 
which states that Quality = Reality (as per Pirsig) and that the MoQ 
(presumably still as an Intellectual/Conceptual metaphysical system) 
denotes that Quality = Reality.

Cheers

Horse

On 31/10/2012 09:48, MarshaV wrote:
> Horse,
>
> I would prefer to prevaricate as I find some explanations do not fit easily into either/or choice.  It depends on context.  But you are the moderator and if the threat is to toss me off the list for not making such a choice, I'll say no.  I prefer, though, my two-view explanation.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes Marsha I can read and I read your reply which was why I asked the question.
>>
>> So can you answer my question or will you continue to prevaricate.
>>
>> Do you believe MoQ = Reality.
>>
>> Very simple. Yes or No?
>>
>> Horse
>>
>> On 30/10/2012 09:53, MarshaV wrote:
>>> Hi Horse,
>>>
>>> I wrote to Andre:
>>> I take the two-view perspective of the MoQ.  There is the MoQ as the intellectual/conceptual metaphysical system, with all its examples and supporting explanation, which was presented by RMP in 'LILA' and with interviews, text and letters; and there is the MoQ as Reality = Quality (Dynamic/static), or as I prefer to think of it:  Value(unpatterned/patterned).
>>>
>>> In the second view, I am saying that the Metaphysics of Quality denotes Reality = Quality(Dynamic/static).  Metaphysics as first, or fundamental, principle.
>>>   
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Horse wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marsha
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying that
>>>>
>>>> MoQ = Reality
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> Quality = Reality?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Horse
>>>>
>>>> On 30/10/2012 09:12, MarshaV wrote:
>>>>> dmb,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:39 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> dmb:
>>>>>> Marsha stands firmly upon a paradox that she doesn't understand. She's remains confused as to the meaning of the MOQ's central distinction, i.e. the distinction between concepts and reality, between static quality and Dynamic Quality.
>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>> Here is the fundamental principle of the MoQ on which I totally agree.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Metaphysics of Quality's central idea [is] that the world is nothing but value ..."
>>>>>
>>>>>        (RMP, 'A brief summary of the Metaphysics of Quality, October 2005')
>>>>>
>>>>>     Marsha
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