[MD] perceptions

[MarshaV]

dmb,

I do not see the contradiction in what I wrote and this RMP quote:

"Quality is shapeless, formless, indescribable [undifferentiated]. To see shapes and forms is to intellectualize. Quality is independent of any such shapes and forms. The names, the shapes and forms we give Quality depend only partly on the Quality. They also depend partly on the a priori images we have accumulated in our memory. We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, analogues to our previous experiences. If we didn't we'd be unable to act. We build up our language in terms of these analogues."                         

Where is the contradiction?
 

Marsha



On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:31 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:



Greetings Joe,

If by perceptions you mean the sensory process, in what way is that not dependent on mentally constructing and re-cognizing patterns, for instance, flipping what the visual apparatus takes in as upside-down and reconstructing it "rightside-up"? 

In mindful awareness (mindfulness) one drops the narration (language) function for a more perceptual (immediate) experience, but there is still pattern identification in differentiating shapes, smells, sounds, tastes and touch.  The differentiating doesn't disappear with language.  The differentiating is there with perceiving too.  

DQ is "indivisible, undefinable & unknowable"; the term 'indivisible' pointing to monism, non-dualistic: indeterminate.  


Marsha