[MD] self

[MarshaV]

Greetings, 


On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:23 PM, david buchanan wrote:

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> Marsha wrote to X-man and dmb:
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> Here's my definition of the self:  the “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent static patterns value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
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> dmb says:
> As I've pointed out many times, your definition of the self is contradictory. Obviously, if the self "flows" and is "ever-changing" then it can not also be a "static" pattern. Those are contradictory terms and so your definition is nonsense. Can't you think of a way to say it that doesn't contradict standard definitions or violate basic logic? 
> Words like "flowing" and "ever-changing" can rightly be used to describe the "Dynamic", but not the "static" or the "patterned". Since "static" and "Dynamic" are such central terms in the MOQ, your contradictory definition is especially egregious. 
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> egregious |iˈgrējəs|adjective1 outstandingly bad; shocking :


Marsha:
And I pointed out many times, it is not anti-intellectual or a contradiction to understand that patterns may maintain a static, stable identity at the same time as they and their context are undergoing constant change. 

Marsha added:
Think of the Ship of Theseus, or a parade (Hume) where everyone drops out but is replaced so that the parade is maintained, or the body with its cells constantly being replaced... 

Marsha now:
Since in the MoQ the starting point of empirical reality is value, I can only state that my definition agrees with my experience.  Nothing Buddhist or mystical implied.
 
 
 







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