[MD] Sympathy for the Devil

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Sun Feb 10 07:56:14 PST 2013


No, Ron, the point was about the "viewpoint" (or worldview) of those
in the conversation.

Language is language and we are limited by its usability in text
exchanges. We can certainly converse "about" anything we like, but
some things are not well defined in the words we use, less well
defined than simple definitions of words may imply. Language is one
tool we have to use, but no reason to confuse the things in the
language with the things we're actually talking about.That seems to be
a simple fact, borne out by the history of MD, particularly around
Quality and DQ in particular.

Different people have different creative rhetorical ways of getting
more out of the language, and some bring more shared experiences to
the table than the text in their discussion posts.

We accept that language has limits, but we don't accept that fact need
limit living real life, surely?

Ian
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
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> Ant had said:
> " the static viewpoint is the default one in LILA and so should be the
> default one here.  It's MOQ Discuss; not Mystic Discuss. "
>
> Ian replies:
>
> I reject limiting MD to the static view. Surely our topic (on MD) is a
> living philosophy - not "what Pirsig wrote".
>
>
> Ron adds:
> I think that is a bit ironic considering the point of view you and others
> advocate is one that all conversation can not be anything but static,
> one can not speak about the dynamic.
>
> That is what seems limiting in discussion. If one really lived by that conviction
> they really would'nt speak much at all much less participate in a philosophy
> discussion, it would be pointless and meaningless.
>
> "Mystic discuss" now thats funny, nothing but empty e-mails. Asite dedicated to nothing.
>
> How could a beginner of philosophy fail to lose heart?.
>
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