[MD] Where does DQ end and SQ begin and SQ end and DQ begin? It's all bananas isn't it?

[Craig Erb]

[dmb]
> There is no such thing as a preconceptual [tree].
> It's one of "the forms which we make" and DOES NOT YET exist in
> "the basic flux of experience".








 
"You can't be aware that you've seen a tree until after you've seen the tree,
and between the instant of vision and instant of awareness there must be a time lag. . .
The tree that you are aware of intellectually, because of that small time lag,
is always in the past."  (Pirsig, ZAMM)


How do we reconcile these 2 quotes.  On the one hand, the tree is only in the FUTURE,
after experience.  On the other hand, the tree is in the past BEFORE intellectual
awareness.
IMHO there are 2 varieties of the MoQ: anthrocentric MoQ (AMoQ) and

pan-experiential MoQ (PMoQ).  In AMoQ spov's emerge from the experience of humans.
In PMoQ spov's emerge from their own experience: amoebae back away from acid and
iron filings value movement toward magnets, without humans being involved. 
Craig