[MD] Exist

[Ian Glendinning]

No love without freedom.
No freedom without love.
Dido
Regards
Ian
What's so funny 'bout ....


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM, <khoohockaun at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can, dmb, leave the substance out of it, and object to your treatment of
> Marsha. Don't confuse the two. Your venom is the issue.
>
> This makes my fourth post. So please chill out.
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> From: david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
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> Khoo said:
> Well, have it your way dmb. You have proven your "obsession" with deriding
> Marsha personally and its getting rather distasteful to have to read them
> day after day, post after post. And moreover trying to justify it. There is
> no justification for the treatment you mete out to her. Whatever she does
> or says, if you persist on an eye for an eye, you will both end up blind.
> Just recognize you have gone way beyond argumentation and it does not do
> you nor your reputation any good.
>
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> dmb says:
> Since you haven't said a single word about the substance of the dispute,
> how can you pass judgement as to whether the criticism is justified or not?
> Since you have said nothing about the content of the argument, on what
> basis are you declaring that I've gone "way beyond argumentation"? Like I
> said, it's no accident that nobody ever defends Marsha against the content
> and substance of my criticisms, as if the ideas are just incidental. Aren't
> you, in effect, putting social values over intellectual values here? I
> think manners are relatively trivial and petty compared to the content of
> my concerns. If you or anyone else wants to step up and defend Marsha on
> the ACTUAL SUBSTANCE OF THE MATTER, that's fine. That's fair. I'd be glad
> to hear it. But, again, let's not pretend that she's an innocent victim.
>
> In this particular case, for example, my so-called "venom" is a response
> to a series of aggressive provocations aimed directly at me. When that
> failed to get any response, she cranked it up even further. But your
> complaints, Khoo, make no mention of her part in this. I'd say it's Marsha
> who's obsessed with personal derision and I think anyone who took a fair
> and honest look at the larger context would come to that conclusion too.
> But, of course, one cannot come to ANY conclusion one way or the other in
> the absence of the content of the dispute and its context. Without that,
> complaints about table manners empty - or trivial at best.
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