[MD] Exist

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Fri May 3 16:08:42 PDT 2013


Couple of years ago
Seasick Steve
Was the festival novelty
Token redneck
Now turns out
He's the real thing
Here endeth the lesson
Down on the farm
Go fuck yourself
And comeback the wiser
Ian


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Ian Glendinning
<ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:

> No love without freedom.
> No freedom without love.
> Dido
> Regards
> Ian
> What's so funny 'bout ....
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> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM, <khoohockaun at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I can, dmb, leave the substance out of it, and object to your treatment
>> of Marsha. Don't confuse the two. Your venom is the issue.
>>
>> This makes my fourth post. So please chill out.
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>> Khoo said:
>> Well, have it your way dmb. You have proven your "obsession" with
>> deriding Marsha personally and its getting rather distasteful to have to
>> read them day after day, post after post. And moreover trying to justify
>> it. There is no justification for the treatment you mete out to her.
>> Whatever she does or says, if you persist on an eye for an eye, you will
>> both end up blind. Just recognize you have gone way beyond argumentation
>> and it does not do you nor your reputation any good.
>>
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>> dmb says:
>> Since you haven't said a single word about the substance of the dispute,
>> how can you pass judgement as to whether the criticism is justified or not?
>> Since you have said nothing about the content of the argument, on what
>> basis are you declaring that I've gone "way beyond argumentation"? Like I
>> said, it's no accident that nobody ever defends Marsha against the content
>> and substance of my criticisms, as if the ideas are just incidental. Aren't
>> you, in effect, putting social values over intellectual values here? I
>> think manners are relatively trivial and petty compared to the content of
>> my concerns. If you or anyone else wants to step up and defend Marsha on
>> the ACTUAL SUBSTANCE OF THE MATTER, that's fine. That's fair. I'd be glad
>> to hear it. But, again, let's not pretend that she's an innocent victim.
>>
>> In this particular case, for example, my so-called "venom" is a response
>> to a series of aggressive provocations aimed directly at me. When that
>> failed to get any response, she cranked it up even further. But your
>> complaints, Khoo, make no mention of her part in this. I'd say it's Marsha
>> who's obsessed with personal derision and I think anyone who took a fair
>> and honest look at the larger context would come to that conclusion too.
>> But, of course, one cannot come to ANY conclusion one way or the other in
>> the absence of the content of the dispute and its context. Without that,
>> complaints about table manners empty - or trivial at best.
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