[MD] Putting SOM back into the MOQ by excluding SQ, let's not do that say some of us

[MarshaV]

Hi Joe,

I was not accusing you of being vague and confusing, only stating that I didn't understand your post.  Thanks for the expanded explanation.


Marsha



On May 5, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi MarshaV,
> 
> I am sorry that my words are vague and confusing.
> 
> In SOM, abstraction is the base for the theory of knowledge for how we know
> things.  
> 
> In DQ/SQ, direct experience of indefinable/definable reality, becomes the
> base for knowledge. Hopefully knowledge can be transferred into true
> statements in communication.
> 
> Logic should be based on my experience, and I am old and forgetful  How do I
> adjust my statement of a logic for life experience into abstraction, a view
> for "direct experience?"
> 
> Rigid definition of individuality is a limited base of logic, mathematical
> logic.
> 
> Direct experience and logic are bedfellows in differences in reality.  I
> want what I want.
> 
> I appeal to my brain to structure my experience in logical terms.  I am old
> and my brain has worn tracks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/5/13 1:37 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> I am not understanding what you are saying, nor how it related to my
>> statement.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>>> 
>>> A logic of reality describes differentiation in terms of individuality.
>>> This becomes the metaphysical base for mathematical logic.
>>> 
>>> DQ/SQ Metaphysics accepts evolution in indefinable/definable terms DQ/SQ
>>> existence.  DQ/SQ existence accepts indefinable experience DQ, definable
>>> experience SQ.  A complete structure for evolution awaits elaboration.
>>> 
>>> I suggest the musical scale or the color spectrum, both with differing
>>> intervals, be used as a model for disparate levels of evolutionary patterns
>>> in existence. 
>>> 
>>> IMHO Dynamic/Static describe modality in levels in existence indefinable DQ,
>>> definable SQ reality, DQ/SQ metaphysics awaits further elaboration.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/4/13 5:34 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But I consider Dynamic Quality indivisible, undifferentiated, unpatterned,
>>>> in
>>>> other words, it's without either concepts or percepts - So I think I am
>>>> agreeing
>>>> with you.  
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