[MD] Putting SOM back into the MOQ by excluding SQ, let's not do that say some of us

Joseph Maurer jhmau at comcast.net
Sun May 5 15:18:15 PDT 2013


Hi MarshaV,

I am sorry that my words are vague and confusing.

In SOM, abstraction is the base for the theory of knowledge for how we know
things.  

In DQ/SQ, direct experience of indefinable/definable reality, becomes the
base for knowledge. Hopefully knowledge can be transferred into true
statements in communication.

Logic should be based on my experience, and I am old and forgetful  How do I
adjust my statement of a logic for life experience into abstraction, a view
for "direct experience?"

Rigid definition of individuality is a limited base of logic, mathematical
logic.

Direct experience and logic are bedfellows in differences in reality.  I
want what I want.

I appeal to my brain to structure my experience in logical terms.  I am old
and my brain has worn tracks.

Joe




On 5/5/13 1:37 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> I am not understanding what you are saying, nor how it related to my
> statement.
> 
> 
> Marsha 
>  
> 
> On May 4, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>> 
>> A logic of reality describes differentiation in terms of individuality.
>> This becomes the metaphysical base for mathematical logic.
>> 
>> DQ/SQ Metaphysics accepts evolution in indefinable/definable terms DQ/SQ
>> existence.  DQ/SQ existence accepts indefinable experience DQ, definable
>> experience SQ.  A complete structure for evolution awaits elaboration.
>> 
>> I suggest the musical scale or the color spectrum, both with differing
>> intervals, be used as a model for disparate levels of evolutionary patterns
>> in existence. 
>> 
>> IMHO Dynamic/Static describe modality in levels in existence indefinable DQ,
>> definable SQ reality, DQ/SQ metaphysics awaits further elaboration.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/4/13 5:34 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> But I consider Dynamic Quality indivisible, undifferentiated, unpatterned,
>>> in
>>> other words, it's without either concepts or percepts - So I think I am
>>> agreeing
>>> with you.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
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