[MD] relatively static
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Fri May 10 01:32:08 PDT 2013
J-A,
What potter? - It's your thought experiment and I don't understand it's point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions.
Marsha
On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
> Marsha
>
> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.
>
> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it makes the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it is still in a state of change?
>
> Jan-Anders
>
>
> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV:
>
>>
>> J-A,
>>
>> I did not write "still in constant change".
>>
>> Before (when soft and malleable), during firing, and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Would please answer my last question:
>>>
>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change when the clay is burned? Y/N
>>>
>>> J A
>>>
>>>
>>> 9 maj 2013 x kl. 09.21 skrev MarshaV:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> J-A,
>>>>
>>>> If you do not familiar the process of firing clay, you might think about choosing a different example for your attempts at a thought experiment. Does your imagining clay firing stay the same?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> YES
>>>>>
>>>>> I am confused.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change when the clay is burned?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan Anders
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8 maj 2013 x kl. 11.34 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem confused, so I've changed the subject line to reflect the original and more appropriate discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan-Anders,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay or teapots or 'saving time'. Before (when soft and malleable) and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing. In other words, both before and after the firing, the clay or teapot is ever-changing. So once again I suggest that you might take a few minutes everyday to take an introspective look:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static, intellectual attachments of the past."
>>>>>> (LILA, Chapter 9)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost and always. I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology”
>>>>>> (W. James, 1890)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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