[MD] relatively static

[Jan Anders Andersson]

Well Marsha

You admit that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.

Do you understand that there is a change? The physical pattern changes into another, OK?

J-A

10 maj 2013 kl. 10.32 skrev MarshaV:

> 
> 
> J-A,
> 
> What potter?  -  It's your thought experiment and I don't understand it's point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. 
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.
>> 
>> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it makes the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it is still in a state of change?
>> 
>> Jan-Anders
>> 
>> 
>> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV:
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>>> 
>>> J-A,
>>> 
>>> I did not write "still in constant change".  
>>> 
>>> Before (when soft and malleable), during firing, and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Would please answer my last question: 
>>>> 
>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change when the clay is burned? Y/N
>>>> 
>>>> J A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 9 maj 2013 x kl. 09.21 skrev MarshaV:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> J-A,
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you do not familiar the process of firing clay, you might think about choosing a different example for your attempts at a thought experiment.  Does your imagining clay firing stay the same?  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> YES
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am confused.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change when the clay is burned?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jan Anders
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 8 maj 2013 x kl. 11.34 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You seem confused, so I've changed the subject line to reflect the original and more appropriate discussion.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jan-Anders,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay or teapots or 'saving time'.   Before (when soft and malleable) and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing.  In other words, both before and after the firing, the clay or teapot  is ever-changing.  So once again I suggest that you might take a few minutes everyday to take an introspective look:  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static, intellectual attachments of the past."
>>>>>>> (LILA, Chapter 9) 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost and always. I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” 
>>>>>>> (W. James, 1890)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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