[MD] relatively static

[MarshaV]

J-A,

Any time you are ready to make the point of your thought experiment clear I will consider it.


Marsha 


On May 10, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:

> Well Marsha
> 
> You admit that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.
> 
> Do you understand that there is a change? The physical pattern changes into another, OK?
> 
> J-A
> 
> 10 maj 2013 kl. 10.32 skrev MarshaV:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> J-A,
>> 
>> What potter?  -  It's your thought experiment and I don't understand it's point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.
>>> 
>>> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it makes the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it is still in a state of change?
>>> 
>>> Jan-Anders
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> J-A,
>>>> 
>>>> I did not write "still in constant change".  
>>>> 
>>>> Before (when soft and malleable), during firing, and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Would please answer my last question: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change when the clay is burned? Y/N
>>>>> 
>>>>> J A
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 9 maj 2013 x kl. 09.21 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you do not familiar the process of firing clay, you might think about choosing a different example for your attempts at a thought experiment.  Does your imagining clay firing stay the same?  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> YES
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am confused.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you mean by that "still in constant change" that there is NO change when the clay is burned?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jan Anders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 8 maj 2013 x kl. 11.34 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You seem confused, so I've changed the subject line to reflect the original and more appropriate discussion.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jan-Anders,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay or teapots or 'saving time'.   Before (when soft and malleable) and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing.  In other words, both before and after the firing, the clay or teapot  is ever-changing.  So once again I suggest that you might take a few minutes everyday to take an introspective look:  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static, intellectual attachments of the past."
>>>>>>>> (LILA, Chapter 9) 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost and always. I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” 
>>>>>>>> (W. James, 1890)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>> 
>> ... snip... 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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