[MD] Sociability Re-examined

[Ron Kulp]

John,
It seems like it would explain
A lot at first, but the longer I
Think on it the more confining 
It becomes. 
Still mulling it over ..
-Ron


> On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:49 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My line of thought was triggered by Jan-Anders inquiry into the "Step Two",
> Horse, and as such is not as ridiculous as you are putting forth.
> In the earliest human communities, and to the American Indian, Religion in
> the form of do's and don't, myth and meaning, was EVERYTHING and it guided
> every step of their lives.
> It takes no great leap then to call their social patterns, religious.
> 
> We who live in a more enlightened age, associate religion with superstition
> and foolishness but I say that in our blanket denigration of earlier
> ancestors, we are ignoring the unproven assumptions by which we live and
> take on "faith".
> 
> But I see that nobody wants to engage with this idea, so I'll shut up about
> it.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
>> 
>> And religion is one part of the social level not it's entirety - or are
>> you as blind to that as Bo is blind to anything other than subjects and
>> objects being the whole of the intellectual level? At the moment you are
>> making as much sense as Bo - possibly less!
>> 
>> Horse
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2014 01:27, John Carl wrote:
>>> 
>>> Horse,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> Whether you're serious or not is irrelevant. Saying the Social level is
>>>> the 'Religious Level' has as much credence as saying the Intellectual
>>>> level
>>>> is the 'Individual' level or consists entirely of Subjects and Objects!
>>>> Belief in sky pixies or gods or god with some sort of mysterious
>>>> creationist type mythology (which covers the majority of religions) is
>>>> pure
>>>> social level patterns.
>>>> It's basically hogwash with holes in it!
>>>> 
>>>> Horse
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I believe that's my exact point?  That "Belief in sky pixies or gods
>>> or god
>>> with some sort of mysterious creationist type mythology (which covers the
>>> majority of religions) is pure social level patterns"
>>> 
>>> Pure social level indeed!
>>> 
>>> John
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