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[John Carl]

DmB,


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:03 AM, david <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> John said to dmb:
> ...demonization polarizes and makes change into a power struggle and
> conservatives insist upon having all the guns so it's a losing strategy.
> ...And I believe we've all fallen prey to that same bug-a-boo of demonizing
> opposition.  3rd level and 4th do often conflict, but they are intricately
> interwoven and it might be more accurately analogized as a dance, rather
> than a fight.
>
>
> dmb says:
> Pirsig describes this conflict as a century long hurricane involving war
> and lesser ideological conflicts involved. To call it a "dance" is pretty
> far off the mark, I think.


John:  Ok, I get you.  It's been a huge fight, I agree.  But I was asking,
does it have to be? Metaphysically speaking that is.  A bitter conflict
carried forward ad infinitum just seems so depressing.  And fatal.


> It also seems quite inaccurate and more than a little condescending to
> characterize my complaints as a "demonization" or polarization, especially
> since I was complaining about the demonization of Dewey.
>
>

If I demonize you or polarize our dialogue then I'm certainly not
practicing what I preach so... you're right and I don't want to do so.
But I do want to talk about Deweyean idealisms such as viewing problems
non-antagonistically.

And also I want to apologize to you especially for all the antagonism I
generated in the past.  I was still young and ignorant, way back then.

John



>
> Check this out. Dewey, creative education and real democracy - in less
> than three minutes...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdV2YMpF0tA
>
>
Nice.  It sparked a whole morning's video viewing  ending with Ted Zak's
TedTalk on Love, Morality and oxytocin.  I had some take-home ag work today
and was glad to have some interesting stuff to think about.