[MD] Step one

[Ian Glendinning]

Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail ?

Or (for dmb), can you tell the green slime from your feet of clay ?

The distinction between levels 1 and 2 is "life" - not necessarily
organic life, or DNA-based organic life, that just happens to be the
most-obvious form in the circumstances of human history. Just life.

Now, defining life .... replication is a key part of it, but if you're
into splitting hairs you'll find everything comes in layers, including
the layers ....

Ian

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:58 PM, david <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> dmb says:
> As I understand it, the distinction between organic and inorganic is something everyone already understands. It's not something Pirsig invented. It's just the difference between Adam and the clay from which he was formed. It's the difference between rocks and trees, between ants and suns. I don't understand why anyone needs to ask such a question.
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>> Jan-Anders:
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>> By inspiration from Andre I'll suggest that we start a discussion about how to define the difference between level one, the inorganic and level two, the organic. I couldn't find any consistent thread in the Archives.
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>> Andre:
>> 'Everything that has not been created by life (defined as DNA) is an inorganic value pattern'. Annot.42
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>> Ipso facto an organic pattern is the 'presence of DNA in a self-perpetuating pattern'. Annot.23
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>> The boundary between inorganic patterns and organic patterns is the virus 'because it is the simplest organism that contains DNA. I have read there is some dispute about the virus being living or dead, and I take this dispute as evidence that it is the boundary' Annotn. 48.
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