[MD] A New Broom......

[david]

Horse said to All:
As 2014 starts I've made a decision that will please some and annoy or infuriate others - you can't please everyone!
I've observed Marsha over the last few months and, despite the warnings given to her in the past I do not believe that there has been any substantial change in the way that she approaches discussion with others which is what I specifically asked for. As such I have removed Marsha from MD in order to give the list a fighting chance of resuming intelligent conversation that centres on Robert Pirsig's MoQ. That is the purpose of this list and that is how it should be. Now, about that intelligent discussion........



dmb says:
Looking at the archives, I can see that Marsha posted about 60 times in November and 45 times in December. That's about twice as much as anyone else, which means the discussion group was being dominated by incoherent drivel and passive aggressive snark. 

I unsubscribed in early November because of her trollishness. Could. Not. Stand it anymore. Glad to see the place cleaned up.

Thinking of writing a blog post about scientific revolutions (Kuhn) and how that relates to Pirsig's view of science. You know, Copernican revolutions, non-euclidean geometry, post-Newtonian physics, the proliferation of scientific hypotheses, Poincare's intuitive leaps, or anything along those lines. So I am hereby asking any interested person to start a new thread on the topic. 

Here's hoping that 2014 will be 100% more interesting and 100% less frustrating around here.





 
> On 31/12/2013 22:36, Dan Glover wrote:
> > Hi Andre
> >
> > I've always given Marsha the benefit of the doubt, not because she's a
> > woman but because I thought she might have something of value to add to the
> > discussion.
> >
> > I was wrong.
> >
> > You're right... discussing anything with her is a waste of  time. Rather
> > than offering anything solid pertaining to the MOQ, she continually resorts
> > to the same tired crap. I don't know why she is here other than to post
> > poems and piss people off. It is clear she is not interested in discussing
> > anything pertaining to the MOQ or any of Robert Pirsig's work.
> >
> > Still, what I was hoping to do was perhaps kick start the discussion with
> > others who are interested in debating the finer points of the MOQ. It seems
> > like for the last couple months there has been nothing along those lines
> > and I am as much to blame as the next person.
> >
> > Failing that, then I suppose we are looking at the end of the discussion
> > group.
> >
> > So... how about a nice intelligent discussion?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >


> >>
> >> Andre said:
> >> Congratulations Marsha. You've done it again. Pissing posters off with
> >> your derisory and contemptible attitude towards what is written...often
> >> thoughtful and intelligent responses by posters who take the MoQ
> >> seriously...and who take your responses seriously...but then (pressed in a
> >> corner due to your confusion about many fundamental matters concerning the
> >> MoQ) the eel comes out again.
> >>
> >> The only thing I would have an argument with regarding Dan's response is
> >> that a discussion with MARSHA is a waste of time. It's really one big
> >> soliloquize she's putting on here.
> >> There is nothing intelligent there and, as said, she treats any and every
> >> sq pattern with derision and contempt (all is 'hypothetical' and 'static
> >> ever changing') making a mockery of Pirsig's MoQ.
> >>
> >> The sooner she leaves this Discuss the better.
> >>

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