[MD] Julian Baggini: This is what the clash of civilisations is really about
Ron Kulp
xacto at rocketmail.com
Wed May 20 05:10:53 PDT 2015
Hey Jan, John ,
I think the idea being expressed In that quote John posted is that what often is passed as "fact" is often opinion or point of view. An assumption . However, facts or truth in scientific terms is verifiable in experience. Often that quote or idea is popularly misapplied in academic environments today.
-Ron
> On May 20, 2015, at 4:04 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>
> Hi JC
>
> Doesn’t that show the dichotomy between a social moral, which is defined by a group excluding other groups, and the intellectual moral level, where scientific concepts are the same for any individual?
>
> The Zip Codes for New York City, The number of states in the USA, E=MC2, Thermodynamics and algebraics etc.
>
> All the best
>
> Jan-Anders
>
>> 19 maj 2015 x kl. 20:35 skrev John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Perhaps the most powerful idea to filter through from the universities to
>> the streets was articulated by Foucault, who adapted and popularised the
>> Nietzschean idea that what passes for truth is actually no more than power.
>> There are no facts, only attempts to impose your view on the world by
>> fixing it as "The Truth". This idea is now so mainstream that even a
>> conservative like Donald Rumsfeld could complain about those who lived in
>> the "reality-based community", arguing "that's not the way the world really
>> works anymore ... when we act, we create our own reality."
>>
>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Ron Kulp <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Unless we can make a convincing case that the choice is not between
>>> relativism or dogmatism, more and more people will reject the former and
>>> embrace the latter. When they do, those who helped create the impression
>>> that modern, secular rationality leaves everything up for grabs in the
>>> marketplace of belief will have to take their share of the blame."
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 17, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Ron Kulp <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know Baggini is not too well favored here but he does make an
>>> interesting observation much akin to RMP
>>>> In regard to cultural crisis and the return to conservative dogma.
>>>> http://gu.com/p/jm38/sbl
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