[MD] Living MOQ practically
emily_parodi at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 13 11:36:05 PDT 2015
This is my first time posting, so please forgive any breaches of forum etiquette here....So, while I haven't yet read Lila either (I plan to, but haven't yet found it on audio book format which is more convenient for me), I've read ZaTAoMM three times now in the past two years. I think Pirsig would be proud that his works of non-fiction / philosophy have generated discussion groups and so much thinking about quality. Yet at the same time I think he would shake his head. You try to point to quality or define it, and it disappears.
Another good read on philosophy is "The Power of Now" and other works of non-fiction by Eckart Tolle. It's not MOQ, but just an interesting perspective. A quote I particular like about the human mind from Tolle's perspective, is that the mind loves crossword puzzles and the like, (I'm paraphrasing here), because "it likes to sink its teeth into a problem". Whereas for the happiness of humans as a species, thinking along these lines is not particularly productive. You never see a cat or dog suffering from depression or other mental disorders.
Emily S., age 41, SF Bay Area, California (U.S.A.)
Former Cognitive Psychology / Psycholinguistics Major in two of the U.C. "churches of higher learning".
Mother of 3.
Very much looking forward to reading Lila as well.
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:55:42 -0700
> From: ridgecoyote at gmail.com
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Living MOQ practically
> Welcome Albert,
> Living a good life isn't as easy as a 1-2-3 recipe but perhaps we
> could help if you wouldn't mind asking questions in a simple dialogue
> format. And rather than posting the questions personally, ask them on
> the list and let the general audience come up with the answers.
> I too felt that ZAMM didn't fill in enough details but fortunately,
> Pirsig followed up with a much more detailed and rigourous explanation
> of what he called "The Metaphysics of Quality". It would probably
> help a lot to read that work - Lila, and share your impressions and
> questions as you read.
> Good luck and hope to hear more of your journey.
> John C.
> On 10/12/15, Albert Mezistrano <albertstrano at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi, my name is Albert, I am a recent college graduate of the sciences and
> > humanities and have recently became a big fan of Prisig.
> > I stumbled upon ZMM a few months ago during a rough time for me
> > philosophically and thoroughly enjoyed it to the extent that I couldn't
> > read anything or talk to anyone with out it coming to mind.
> > Yet, I still have a very hard time living in line with ZMM. It is a very
> > loose concept and hard to make practical.
> > As I was thinking of how to approach this quandary I thought I would go
> > here and ask if I could speak one-on-one with anyone who could enlighten a
> > willing student. Anyone who could help out and email me directly or who
> > lives in NYC and could chat would make things a lot easier for me.
> > Thank you!
> > Albert
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