[MD] Annotations to LC

David Harding david at goodmetaphysics.com
Tue Nov 15 18:49:02 PST 2016


Nicely put dmb.  You're right that Tuukaa's mistake is made before he even
starts to use logic.  Discussion beyond this, which he seems very keen to
commence, is fruitless.





On Nov. 16, 2016 at 11:43 am, david <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:




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Tuukka said to David and Adrie:

you don't believe in the existence of the Heinous Quadrilemma. How about
this duodecalemma?

http://wiki.moq.fi/images/0/03/Duodecalemma.jpg



dmb says:

This duodecalemma begins with the same false premise, namely that
materialism and idealism cannot be reconciled within the MOQ's larger
context. Again, the meaning and the status of both mind and matter is
drastically altered in the MOQ but you're operating without that
alteration. You're operating as if one or the other has to come first and
the MOQ says they both come first but that's simply not true. The MOQ says
neither of them come first. The MOQ says they are both secondary additions.
They are very handy concepts and they are true in that Pragmatic sense. But
neither of them are primary realities. In the MOQ, reality is experience as
such. Quality is the primary empirical reality from which both concepts are
derived, from which ALL concepts are derived - including the laws of logic.



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